Quick #PizzaGate post RE: Sargon


Twitter isn’t the easiest place to have a full fledged discussion, so I figured I’d do a quick shitpost as a response to Sargon of Akkad. Just so I can fully flesh out my point of view. No idea if he’ll actually read it – seems like he just wanted to hit me with the “gotcha!” more than anything. God loves a trier though. Here’s the tweet:

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For a little context, the tweet chain comes in response to a conversation between Sargon and Furious Fossa, another YouTuber. Fossa has a video currently on Milo Yanderepoopless’ recent scandal in regards to not reporting child abuse. His opinions largely align with mine on that subject. Though we’ve had disagreements on how we should handle paedophiles in society before now. Sargon, when presented with Fossa’s argument, started hashtagging about #PizzaGate as if it was at all relevant. It wasn’t.

See, it isn’t relevant because #PizzaGate isn’t an investigation into child sex abuses and trafficking in general. Its a very specialised and specific conspiracy theory regarding DNC political figures. Largely focusing around John Podesta, chairman of Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign. Evidence for the claims are mostly derived from Wikileaks email leaks.

In short, the claims come about because of the language used in the emails and its apparent alignment with FBI known codes for child abuse. I’m sure if you’ve been around the internet long enough, you’ve heard of such things as “cheese pizza” being used to refer to child pornography. Though, as I covered in my recent basic shitpost about #PizzaGate where I covered some emails sent to me by someone who believes in it, the evidence and links to child abuse are incredibly tenuous. The emails he sent me to debunk had no strong connection to child abuse in them – at all. None. The most scandalous thing being the fact that Obama spent $65,000 of tax payer money to fly pizza in to the White House from Chicago.

To conflate this lunacy with actual high profile paedophile rings is incredibly disingenuous. Sargon’s gotcha in his tweet only makes sense if you suppose that #PizzaGate isn’t what I’ve described it as above, but it is – ask basically anyone tweeting about it. Including that one dude who stands outside Comet Ping Pong with a sign about child abuse. I disagree with #PizzaGate, that doesn’t mean I don’t think that high profile paedophile rings exist. I do.

I live in Britain, and we’ve pretty much set the bar on child molestation scandals in recent years. Saville, Harris, Rotherham, Watkins, Clifford – just to name a few. It’s quite clearly a problem and real investigation needs to be done. However where there’s actual evidence and testimony for the above claims, there doesn’t seem to be any of that for the claims being made by pizzagate fanatics. When pressed on this you know what their argument is? “Well they kill the kids, there are millions of kids going missing every year, check the statistics!” Which yeah, true, there are lots of kids going missing every year in the US.

Yet for some reason no bodies are ever found, nobody has ever come forward after having their conscience break from hiding children’s bodies, no actual evidence in support of PizzaGate’s core claims exists. Just theoretical whimsy.

Sargon’s intentions may be good, maybe I’m misreading them. However I think its a mistake to give creedence to pizzagate. Its a witch hunt seemingly built upon the imagination of people who just really wanted to stick it to the DNC campaign. It’s a total misdirection for both law enforcement and social enforcement against child abuse. It’s wildly irresponsible.

 

 

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6 thoughts on “Quick #PizzaGate post RE: Sargon

  1. Hobbyist Contrarian says:

    The guy’s a parent, and he didn’t have an easy time when he first looked into Pizzagate with his video, “The Reality of Child Sex Rings”, or something to that effect. He’s stated before he doesn’t believe it, but he says he’s following it and it’s getting more credible.

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  2. snowwhitedove says:

    Thought I would share this with you. It pertaining to this part of your post.

    “Well they kill the kids, there are millions of kids going missing every year, check the statistics!” Which yeah, true, there are lots of kids going missing every year in the US.

    It is according to National Center for Missing & Exploited Children (NCMEC) that the Pizzagate followers get their Missing Children statistics which is based on a 1999 study.

    First they use an old info from May 2013. This is what they quote. “According to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, roughly 800,000 children are reported missing each year in the United States — that’s roughly 2,000 per day.”

    source http://abcnews.go.com/US/missing-children-america-unsolved-cases/story?id=19126967

    BUT they conveniently leave out this part.

    “An estimated 115 children were the victims of “stereotypical” kidnapping. These “stereotypical” kidnappings involved someone the child did not know or was an acquaintance. The child was held overnight, transported 50 miles or more, killed, ransomed or held with the intent to keep the child permanently.”

    Wayback machine source from 2014: https://web.archive.org/web/20140903050152/http://www.missingkids.com/KeyFacts

    Now if one actually goes to the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children (NCMEC) one get a more updated statistics with explanation of their of these numbers.

    Here is their numbers for 2016 and 2015..

    “According to the FBI, in 2016 there were 465,676 NCIC entries for missing children. Similarly, in 2015, the total number of missing children entries into NCIC was 460,699.”

    Now that sounds like a large number but wait there are explanations that need to be shared.

    “This number represents reports of missing children. That means if a child runs away multiple times in a year, each instance would be entered into NCIC separately and counted in the yearly total. Likewise, if an entry is withdrawn and amended or updated, that would also be reflected in the total.”

    So when one reads this explanation for the large number we can see that these are not children missing but reports. So we see duplicate missing reports or numerous multiple run away by one child skews the statistical numbers. According to this website 90% of the reports are runaways (if I am reading the facts correctly).

    One last fact I thought you like to know.

    “One in six endangered runaways reported to NCMEC in 2016 were likely sex trafficking victims. 86% of these likely sex trafficking victims were in the care of social services or foster care when they went missing.’

    Soruces: http://www.missingkids.com/KeyFacts

    http://www.missingkids.com/home

    For me there are many misleading others using statistics without explaining or accounting for the numbers.

    Lastly if someone uses the Wayback Machine website to look at years 2014-2017 one will see that they no longer claim 800,000 a year reported missing but have a number for each year from 2013 to 2016 and they are in the 460,000-470,000 range. But we have to keep in mind that any duplicate reports or multiple run aways of one child are included into these numbers.

    Hope this helps in your twitter conversations about pizzagate. 🙂

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