Quick point RE: “Islam is Evil!”


Had a conversation in the comments section of my post “Islam is Evil!” and I just wanted to clarify a quick point. See, the commenter accused me of political correctness and I just wanted to clarify that my ideas were not about political correctness in the slightest. I might write a full post about my ideas on being PC but for now, here’s why I wasn’t being PC in that post.

If you don’t want to read that post, in short I argued that I think calling all Islam evil etc is inaccurate because the part of Islam you’re using to call evil isn’t representative of all Islam. You wouldn’t call all bread brown – because there is also white bread. Both brown and white bread are still bread though. That was essentially the crust of my argument. However I want to go a little further than that and say its also practically a bad thing to do.

Why? Because I think that it contributes to the negative environment that begins the cycle of radicalisation. Here’s an article and a couple quotes from it if you’re lazy:

“Governments are waking up to the fact that hard security tools cannot reduce the wellspring of violent extremism; their strategies need to work on addressing the underlying grievances and conflicts that feed violent extremism.”

“Certainly, economic, social, cultural and political exclusion and marginalisation are all contributing factors,” she said. “Local manifestations of violent extremism may differ, but often the underlying causes were similar and rooted in development – a lack of education, poverty and gender inequality.”

So its not just me that thinks this, its actual experts in the subject of extremism and radicalisation. If we continue to reverse engineer this we find that the way we speak about Islam and the way we behave regarding Muslims are contributing factors. This could happen in a variety of ways, one of which being using phrases like “Islam is evil” as I described already – it inherently makes followers of Islam – ie Muslims – feel as though they are evil. It causes people to treat all Muslims badly because all Muslims follow a form of Islam. Islam is a tree with many branches, and if you want people to sit on the non-extremist branches in your society, you can’t treat the tree like its all just one branch.

Do I think this should be legislated? Heck no, freedom of speech all the way. This is a social change that is going to take people actively making a choice to not take the easy route and tar everyone with the same brush. It takes far more effort to respect the diversity and nuance of people than it does to generalise. But if it is, as experts suggest, contributing to the cycle of radicalisation, then isn’t it worth it? You could literally help stop terror attacks by changing one little thing about the way you speak.

I don’t argue this from a political correctness standpoint – this isn’t about muh feelings. It’s purely a practical solution to a problem. If you know that not getting enough protein is contributing to you feeling sleepy all the time – you don’t continue to not get enough protein, you fix the problem. This is what I advocate for, fixing a problem. If you want to end the cycle of radicalisation which results in terror attacks – then you need to address the causes. Whether you like it or not, that involves you and changing something about you. It’s your call.

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5 thoughts on “Quick point RE: “Islam is Evil!”

  1. ∂αɾⓡєṉ (@CelticHoe_) says:

    Political correctness is defined as: “the avoidance of forms of expression or action that are perceived to exclude, marginalise, or insult groups of people who are socially disadvantaged or discriminated against”
    You are avoiding a form of expression or action (saying “radical Islam” instead of Islam”) for the purpose of preventing a perceived marginalisation of certain groups(Muslims).
    You are y definition being politically correct.

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    • cursedeblogger says:

      Thats pure definition – that’s not the connotation that is carried by PC etc. I’m going to write a bigger post about the idea of PC at some point soon. In short I wanted to avoid it because its usually accompanied by those negative connotations, which I don’t think can really be applied here.

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      • ∂αɾⓡєṉ (@CelticHoe_) says:

        You are reaching the definition. I still don’t understand the avoidance of the label. If you feel strongly about your opinion on how Islam should be discussed and if that feeling reaches the definition of political correctness why be so bothered. If you want Islam to be discussed in a politically correct manner then you do you. I honestly don’t agree with it but you don’t have to go against the label just because the realm of the internet we immerse ourselves in holds acrimony towards that phrase. If you agree with a changing of language for the prevention of a perceived marginalisation of Muslims then hold that belief. When I point out that it is political correctness it isn’t done as an argument against your actions. I was just getting you to understand what what you are doing is political correctness.

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    • Kevin Laprise🔌 (@kevlap017) says:

      I read your comments, and I disagree, while Cursed original post was… well let’s be frank, simplistic as fuck (Seriously, it’s the ”not all” argument without meat), she isn’t wrong with what she meant: Generalisations aren’t going to help us get rid of ISIS and cie. You say it’s political correctness to oppose generalisation ( or more specifically the use of generalising language) of a group of people, but is it really? When activists remembered the world that not all blacks or women act or think a certain way and that those ”not all” lead the way for mentality changes and then real changes, was it ”political correctness”? Certainly not! Holding such views was seen as abhorent! Same for Cursed views! She is the one holding the controversial opinion here, and political correctness, in my opinion, is more about taking the route of least effort and resistance, the route of the ”let’s all be friends and rainbows”… The route the media takes, the route of the leading political movements. The route of sheeps you know. Political correctness is about avoiding different ideas, whether you are left or right leaning, through the use of language. Cursed saw that our use of language is fueling radicalization for many muslims ( it’s, after all, the whole propaganda of ISIS that the West hate muslims and is coming for them… and our actions fuel that propaganda) and thought that we need to act about that, show muslims that we are capable of nuance… It fits her ”I just want to fix a problem” attitude… She wasn’t trying to be nice to save people’s feelings… Otherwise she wouldn’t call everyone a faggot or change her avatar to a swastika for a week just to see the reactions. She is trying to be nuanced. I think she should have said that while islam, christianity and most religions, to be fair, promote shitty ideas and values along the good stuff, the followers of those religions don’t have to follow it litterally… We all know those christians love to cherry pick their bible, and not just for the bacon ( those who like to spit on gays, like the rear end in bed as well…). We should strive for muslims to do the same… and demonizing them isn’t going to help them become more moderate. We don’t have to change our languge to do so, we can remain crude and mean if we want, just change our arguments. So yeah, talking about people radicalizing instead of a religious group as an amorphous entity akin to the borg where everyone is ”turorist”, could help.

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