Should we care when Paedophiles are murdered?

Over the weekend I got into a little fight on Facebook regarding everyone’s favourite boogie man, the paedophile. I was shocked to see just the amount of people who, out of anger, were calling for the brutal murders of people for being a paedophile. So I really wanted to write a blog to address this idea a little. I think its more than necessary given what I saw just the other day.

First we need to do some definition of terms. See, a paedophile is just someone who finds themselves attracted to children, this is different from a child molester who molests children. This is important, because a lot of paedophiles have never molested children, never looked at child porn, never acted upon their desires. They’ve never done anything wrong, except for have an attraction to an underage person. Which we all know from our history of hating on “the gays” that sexual attraction isn’t something we can easily control, nor is it healthy to try and do so. Repressing sexuality causes that sexuality to bubble back through to the surface through an alternate route. Think of it like a river, you can block the river’s path, but it won’t stop the water. It will just go round your blockade somehow.

So now we know the difference between child molesters and paedophiles. We also know that sexual attraction isn’t something you can just change or take control of. Finally we know that even if we block the river, the river will just flow around the blockage. Assuming we’re all on board so far, and obviously if we’re not I’d love to have a conversation with you about what you think is wrong so far. Hit me up on Twitter or on here.

With our knowledge of what’s what, the question of killing or harming paedophiles can now be bought into question. When most people discuss this, they’re talking about child molesters, paedophiles who have molested children – and so will we.

Child Molesters, have already committed their crime, which may potentially have caused unknown trauma and damage to a child for the rest of their life. Some victims – and no, I won’t be calling them survivors. Some victims of child molestation can suffer long term psychological damage, such as depression and even personality disorders. Some even kill themselves. It’s obviously a huge problem which we should be protecting our children from, but does killing child molesters actually achieve this? No. Because they must have already molested a child to be a child molester. Does it stop them molesting other children, yes, it stops that specific child molester from ever molesting more children. However, it doesn’t stop any of the other child molesters.

When we kill a child molester, we send a message to other child molesters that the punishment for their crime is death, so out of necessity they get better at their crime. It’s already incredibly hard to track and catch paedophiles online. Things like TOR are often abused for the purposes of child abuse and every day it gets better and easier to anonymise yourself online. Police enforcement agencies for this type of crime will tell you themselves that it isn’t easy to catch online paedophiles. Their plant child can often receive thousands of messages from different paedophiles, and the Police will be lucky to catch one. One out of thousands is really bad odds.

We’ve dehumanised paedophiles, we’ve made them less than us, regularly non-child attracted people. So just as every other group of marginalised people, they’ve found comfort and power in each other. Using the anonymous internet and darkweb to connect and talk about the abuse of children. This happened when we dehumanised black people. This happened when we dehumanised gay people. When we dehumanised trans people. Or most recently, as we dehumanise Syrian refugees.

Across history we have this pattern of dehumanising a group of people, and every single time it’s caused further problems. Today we live with the results of black ghettos being in artificial poverty. We live with the problem of homophobic attacks. We live with transphobic laws being made about where people are allowed to go pee. We live with the reality of children washing up dead on beaches because we didn’t see them as human enough to deserve our help. Every single time it comes back to bite us in the ass when we realise “oh they were just people the whole time.”

Paedophiles, and by extension child molesters too, are the same – just people. They do bad things, and we don’t have to like them or agree with the things they do at all, but they are still just human. I get that the desire to hurt them like they hurt kids comes from a place of anger, and I would never tell anyone they aren’t entitled to their anger about something as seriously destructive as this – but its definitely wrong to use that anger in a way that isn’t going to make the problem better. As I said above, anger leads to hate, and hate leads to dehumanisation, dehumanisation leads to fringe groups that we can no longer control. Fringe groups are then able to abuse children freely while we all pretend the problem isn’t real because we don’t know about it.

If we want to solve the problem of child abuse, then we need to allow paedophiles to be people. We need to support them, keep them in our societies and help them to avoid abusing children. We simply cannot solve a problem that we can’t see – and paedophiles will never come forward when they are given such hate for merely existing. Think of it like a fire. We all know fire exists and can be destructive as all heck, but if we can’t see that fire, we can’t do anything about stopping it. If we want to stop the fire/paedophiles from being destructive, we need to know who they are and to do that, we need to treat them like people and not like monsters.

I don’t agree we should ever hurt people, whether those people be the young child of the nicest person you know, or a cranky person who happens to be a paedophile. We’re all people first and foremost, even the people we don’t like or agree with. If we’re ever going to fix the problems of our societies, we need to make sure we remember this.








4 thoughts on “Should we care when Paedophiles are murdered?

  1. flyawayspirit3005 says:

    I think we are pretty much in sync in this topic. I loved the river metaphor.

    When I was reading about anxiety disorders it pointed out that people experience more unwanted thoughts when they try to block them. I think when you have thoughts you want to avoid it just becomes impossible to do. They can be repressed, for a time, but ultimately acceptance of them in yourself is the only way to be sane. Then, you can refocus.

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    • cursede says:

      There’s a concept called repressive desalination I think coined by Marcuse. He explains this kinda thing so well! The river metaphor is pretty much just a short hand of his work. Well worth the read!


  2. AW says:

    Professor Tromovitch and the psychologist Bruce Rind (of Temple University) in 1998 published an article written based on a peer-reviewed meta-analysis of 59 studies which used the self-reported experiences of child sexual contact with adults by 35,703 college students. A substantial majority of the people in this study did not report any harmful effects of (non-coercive) sexual experiences (as opposed to victims of coercion), and a substantial minority even stated these intergenerational sexual contacts and relationships had a positive effect on their life. This article was published in the Psychological Bulletin, the prestigious, official journal of the American Psychological Association (APA).

    Predictably, this caused a storm in the mass media and in the political elite. Apparently for the first time in US history, both the US House of Representatives and the US Senate condemned this scientific paper and threatened to withdraw funding from the APA, so the APA apologised for publishing it. 12 past and present presidents of the Society for the Scientific Study of Sex sharply protested against the APA’s response to the public and political pressure surrounding the study, stating that it “cast a chill on all such research”. The American Association for the Advancement of Science refused APA’s request to review the study, stating they saw “no reason to second-guess the process of peer review used by the APA journal in its decision to publish” and that they “saw no clear evidence of improper application of methodology or other questionable practices on the part of the article’s authors”.

    More recently, the Harvard lecturer Susan Clancy came to the similar conclusions in her book “The Trauma Myth”. In the 1970s and 1980s, Donald West, Professor of Criminology from the University of Cambridge, advocated the abolition of the age of consent in scholarly books. See also Professor Richard Green’s article (he is a psychiatrist from Cambridge University and UCL) “Is Paedophilia a Mental Disorder”.

    In the words of Karin Freimond (“Navigating the Stigma of Pedophilia:
    The Experiences of
    Nine Minor-Attracted Men in Canada”, Department of Sociology and Anthropology, Simon Frasier University, 2013): “Many adults who are attracted to minors experience intense suffering as a result of contemporary attitudes about them and current methods of relating to them. Even when no crimes have taken place and no sexual interaction with people below the age of consent has occurred, people who are sexually interested in children and adolescents encounter incredible stigma. They experience fear about the possibility of their desires becoming known to others, and they cope with depression, anxiety, and suicidal thoughts. These individuals are often completely alone in dealing with their feelings, as they may be too worried about the negative consequences that could arise from talking to loved ones. Further, they may feel restricted in seeking help from therapists, as mandatory reporting laws in many jurisdictions require counsellors to report their clients to the police if they express sexual interest in children. If the nature of their sexuality is revealed, these people are at risk of experiencing physical violence, losing relationships with their friends and families, being fired from their jobs, and encountering financial destitution. The situation facing this population is troubling, and researchers argue that a new, more compassionate approach is needed in order to help people who are attracted to children lead more positive lives (see Cantor, 2012; Goode, 2010).”

    Much more pleasurable to dehumanise all the paedos regardless of their behaviour, to cage them or drive them to suicide.

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